Mel Gibson interview Playboy, July 1995

Do you know what a Rhodes scholar is? Cecil Rhodes established the Rhodes scholarship for those young men and women who want to strive for a new world order. Have you heard that before? George Bush? CIA? Really, it’s Marxism, but it just doesn’t want to call itself that. Karl had the right idea, but he was too forward about saying what it was. Get power but don’t admit to it. Do it by stealth. There’s a whole trend of Rhodes scholars who will be politicians around the world.

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PLAYBOY: How do you feel about Bill Clinton?

GIBSON: He’s a low-level opportunist. Somebody’s telling him what to do.

PLAYBOY: Who?

GIBSON: The guy who’s in charge isn’t going to be the front man, ever. If I were going to be calling the shots I wouldn’t make an appearance. Would you? You’d end up losing your head. It happens all the time. All those monarchs. If he’s the leader, he’s getting shafted. What’s keeping him in there? Why would you stay for that kind of abuse? Except that he has to stay for some reason. He was meant to be the president 30 years ago, if you ask me.

PLAYBOY: He was just 18 then.

GIBSON: Somebody knew then that he would be president now.

PLAYBOY: You really believe that?

GIBSON: I really believe that. He was a Rhodes scholar, right? Just like Bob Hawke. Do you know what a Rhodes scholar is? Cecil Rhodes established the Rhodes scholarship for those young men and women who want to strive for a new world order. Have you heard that before? George Bush? CIA? Really, it’s Marxism, but it just doesn’t want to call itself that. Karl had the right idea, but he was too forward about saying what it was. Get power but don’t admit to it. Do it by stealth. There’s a whole trend of Rhodes scholars who will be politicians around the world.

PLAYBOY: This certainly sounds like a paranoid sense of world history. You must be quite an assassination buff.

GIBSON: Oh, fuck. A lot of those guys pulled a boner. There’s something to do with the Federal Reserve that Lincoln did, Kennedy did and Reagan tried. I can’t remember what it was, my dad told me about it. Everyone who did this particular thing that would have fixed the economy got undone. Anyway, I’ll end up dead if I keep talking shit.

PLAYBOY: No one can accuse you of keeping your big mouth shut.

GIBSON: I used to get into trouble because I had a really big trap. I’d say things to people and they’d take offense because I’m not the soul of tact. It still plagues me.

PLAYBOY: You could have fooled us. Let’s check some of your other attitudes. Where do you stand on the issue of capital punishment?

GIBSON: For certain crimes, yeah, you should knock them off. You’ve got to remove certain people, like they’re too awful to be around.

PLAYBOY: Gun control?

GIBSON: That’s a tough question. There are so many assholes out there with guns, and they’ll always have guns, so you might as well have the right to bear arms.

PLAYBOY: Do you own guns?

GIBSON: I would rather not talk about that. I do.

PLAYBOY: You have six children. How do you deal with the fact that most gun accidents happen in the home?

GIBSON: By keeping it in someone else’s house.

PLAYBOY: What type of protection does that offer?

GIBSON: Anybody comes knocking, I’ve got a hockey stick and a bat and, what’s even better, a shinto stick, which I can beat the shit out of them with. It’s real snappy, like a hurling stick. It’s a triangular piece of wood from Scotland.

PLAYBOY: You can use it on your critics, who have called you, among other things, homophobic, misogynistic——

GIBSON: Racist, bigoted, all sorts of things.

PLAYBOY: Are you any of those things?

GIBSON: No, I’m not. I’m really not. I think if you suggest that you find some modes of behavior unnatural, then you become all those things. And you get vilified. It’s like having people holding signs and trying to spit on you.

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